Style / Phasing

[eckmair]

Here's a style that has an old pencil rough-in look that was typically employed prior to the final rendering occurred and some of the remnants of the construction remained in the final drawing.

It is also an idea of how to show future development in a multi-phase project. Any thoughts?

Tim

[apw79]

Very nice!

[Vez]

I too, like this style. Not too crisp, but it still has that professional look. You can see the loose, sketchy foundation, but it doesn't detract from the main features.
I can see a good application of this for one of my upcoming projects. The reference to new vs existing construction delineation also strikes my fancy. Accept my thanks for your posting.

[Javier]

Excellent!

[Podge]

I also could use this technique! How did you get your outlines to cross and extend to give it taht hand sketch look? I know how to get the edges but I cant figure out how to extend them.
Thank you.

[eckmair]

Podge,
Sorry for the delay but I've been away.
The extended lines you see are a product of SketchUp, (one I don't typically use) and an option you can select in the program. I noted in your profile that you are an autocadd user for your models so I don't know if that will be of much help. I'm not sure if there are other programs that might give this effect as well that would help. Perhaps someone else may be know???

Tim

[Vez]

How did you get the x-ray (ie, greyed lines)? Did you export from Sketchup in x-ray mode and then painted-over in Piranesi?
I see far more "stray" lines than geometry lines. Perhaps you tossed in a few more for the "effect" prior to exporting the image? This looks better evary time I come back and view it. Gotta give you credit for thinking ahead in SU, for adding the little extras in order to get the desired "sketchy" effect in the final render.
Best regards.

[eckmair]

Vez,
This was really a very simple technique employed here. I simply did a normal render process with SketchUp to Piranesi. My exports typically involve lighting the line work from the color pallet so they are not as pronounced as the default black "ink" lines you would get otherwise.
From the same view in SketchUp I export another image in B&W X-Ray mode with the line extensions on and export another view (also lightening the construct lines).
When the Piranesi render is complete I merge the two drawings in PhotoShop allowing the overlaid wire frame to be transparent.
The "extra" construction lines you referred to are either the wire frame lines or the hatching that I have done in Piranesi on the rendered image.

Hope that helps

Tim

[Javier]

Thank you for your tip. It is very clever and useful.

Javier

[Vez]

Thanks...Yes, it is a neat composite. Was unsure of how to achieve the results that you did. But, accept my thanks for the detailed sequence. I have got to try this for myself.

[d.square]

YOU can do same within piranesi.

export your su view as a shadowless and hidden line with white
background. in jpeg mode.

use piranesi to overlay this jpeg file over the epix file in the ink blend mode.

that's it.

redards

[eckmair]

d.square,
thanks for showing us another way to do this. there is almost always more than one means of accomplishing an effect in graphics software. the key is to find the one you are most comfortable with, is quickest and produces the best results!
It's funny that this thread popped up this morning. I was an avid user of Piranesi but unfortunately have been dragged in different career directions which have limited my time working in this capacity - (sad) . My last post - according to the reply thread was 13 December 2007!!!
Keep pushing ahead,

Tim

[Sir Elder]

woowww

I discovered this technique a few years ago before I knew Piranesi. I used it
until the exhaustion I think. The result for me is always at least charming.
Read this thread has brought me good and old memories.





Long Live Piranesi

[agrazdi]

YOU can do same within piranesi.

export your su view as a shadowless and hidden line with white
background. in jpeg mode.

use piranesi to overlay this jpeg file over the epix file in the ink blend mode.

that's it.

redards

One question

1 Open the epix file
2 Import the jpeg file

But i can´t find a way to overlay it with some transparency. It overlay it with full background colours.

Thanks

agrazdi

[Arvan]

2 Import the jpeg file

But i can´t find a way to overlay it with some transparency. It overlay it with full background colours.

In Piranesi 2010 Pro import creates a new layer and you can then set its blend mode and transparency.

In 2010 Lite or 5.1 or earlier you can use the jpeg file as a raster texture in 2d mode and then select blend mode and transparency.

Arvan

[agrazdi]

Thanks, i will try it in this way.

Somebody mentioned that in the 2010 pro you can no longer restore in the INK mode. Is there a reason for it and is there another way to get that effect ?

Thanks

agrazdi

[Arvan]

Somebody mentioned that in the 2010 pro you can no longer restore in the INK mode.
The restore tool is replaced by an eraser, but you can still paint with the restore RGB by setting the restore/colour mix to 0, and all the blend modes are then available.

Is there a reason for it and is there another way to get that effect ? This was because an eraser seemed a better way to do almost all the things that the old restore tool was used for, and several new things as well.

I don't know what effect you want to get. If you really need to exactly match the old restore tool you can create a copy of the restore channels as a new layer and erase any bits you didn't want and merge the layers, but there's probably a better solution for any particular effect you have in mind.

For example if you want to preserve shadows from the original image then you can do all your painting into a new layer which has the ink or overlay blend mode - and you can switch between ink and overlay to see which works best.

Arvan

[agrazdi]

Ok, understood

Thanks

agrazdi